Hornets at Crossroad, Last Call before You miss Lin

Twenty games after joining Charlotte Hornets, Jeremy Lin and other teammates for some moment performed like a little brother of Golden state warriors who tried to copy their brothers’ playing style, dynamic Mike D’Antoni’s offense system. Pistons were confused and did not act like their anticipated such change in Hornet’s “cold-tuned-down Walker” offense. Instead of fending off cutting and penetration, they spend more energy try to stop Hornets’ offense from beyond the arc. Walker was reported sick and maybe that was the reason Jeremy Lin was brought on the court earlier this time in first quarter. Jeremy Lin was allowed to run the offense more frequent this time, though far from what many of Lin fans wished for. Lin ended up playing more than 26 minutes and Hornet beat Piston by 20. The versatility of Lin on both end of the court was just a small showcase of what Lin is capable of. However, Walker checked in the 4th quarter after Hornets established 20 points lead. This was quite unusual act by any coach who was fully aware of the fact that your franchise player was sick. On a side note, Reggie Jackson, the Piston’s starting PG (90 mil. dollar) was held at 2/9, guarded by Lin most of the time.

Déjà Vu? There were numerous games in which when a ball dominant player played less minutes and was either told to have someone taking over ball handling job or did not have enough energy to assume ball handlers’ job most of the time, if Lin was that player who were given green light to run the offense. The end results often were blow-out game against other teams. There were many instances like this when Lin was with Rockets, or Lakers, one of the most recent memorable one was when Kobe turned himself down and somehow ended up with the same score as Jeremy Lin against Charlotte Hornets.

Lin being a consultant to the team.
We generally understand who consultants are and what their work involves. Consultants work on specialized task, teach and guide employees who do not possess such skills and knowledge and once they are done with their work, they are let go in most cases. Teams, like Lakers, used Lin as if he was a consultant last year. Byron Scott, in fact, understands where Lin excels. However, he and Lakers’ FO do not have long term plan for acquiring Lin as their key player. Their plan for Lin, like hiring a consultant, is a short one. The general purpose of acquiring him, besides lottery pick, was to help grow young players who they decided to invest in. J. Clarkson is just one of the example. Clarkson initially did not see floor minute but later in the season, then towards the end of last season, he became the designated PG in most games. Clarkson was first known to be score first guard type and Lakers franchise needed him to grown into a guard who can pass. So we witnessed his assist and playing style changed towards what Lakers projected, of course with Nash’s guide and Lin’s live lesson, it should have helped.

Linsanity – the term coined by biased cause
Linsanity, it is a fundamentally incorrect term bound with Lin’s “amazing” story with New York Nicks. Why it was amazing? Why it should be amazing? Why Lin’s performance was insane? It was simple. Most American public media, NBA, colleague basketball team, scout and general public have been stereotyping against Asian. If you dig deeper, in fact, Lin since high school had proven himself as a great basketball player but most people in the circle just choose to ignore, a.ka. igorant.

It is as simple as that “People just aren’t used to seeing Asians do certain things,” Jeremy said.

The adverse effect of Linsanity on Lin.
Like any performance competition, if a participant came out very strong in his/her first performance, people tend to expect they do that on a regular basis and even get better as time goes on. Nevertheless, people forgot the fact that one’s performance depends on not only one’s ability but also many other factors, equal chance of performing, environment, team composition, playing style, just to name a few. Since Lin’s ride with Rockets, his chance of performing decreased by a ton. So expecting he keeping on his stats like he was with Nicks is just plain naïve.
This might explain why Lin personally expressed that he wanted to get away from Linsanity during that time. Linsanity became a so heavy that affected his game greatly despite awful coaching by McFail.

Confirmation bias playing at its best.
When Lin no longer had the right to run offense in most of the games, his stats declined, Lin haters and doubters including many sports media were so zealous and decided to celebrate their reclaimed self-esteem and pride. There were countless article stating or indicating Linsanity, in this case, Lin, was a fluke. He was just lucky enough to have such run in two weeks. To them, Linsanity was an anomaly, an accident, a nightmare that they wish it did not even happen. Ya, Lin was labeled inconsistent, weak on defense, indecisive, by many, while they forget coach’s horrendous treatments including Lin’s minutes, role assignment, marginalization.
In spite of all these brain-washing activities in hope to turn people’s perception against Lin through out three years, Jeremy prevailed and had been working on improving his game, fixing his weakness and refining his strength.
Ironically, there were many cases, from various sources, in which same kind of folks who claim it was a small sample size to judge Lin’s basketball skill now choose to ignore stats.

Linsanity is a norm
What happened three years back in New York was just a crack on a shield of darkness, a broken colored glasses which allowed us to see what Lin as a basketball player truly is capable of. Time and time again, we’ve seen it in many games when he was given free pass to run the team, be the floor general, be the “PG”, his team’s winning ratio far exceeded expectation. Day light is always out side of the windows, but if you choose to put curtain on forever, you will never realize it is there.

Uniqueness of Lin’s basketball game
Lin is best known for his first step quickness, ability to finish at the rim, excellent court vision and greater passer. These traits on Lin were just like a tip of the ice berg. It is easy to judge a player by simply looking up his so-called main stats. points per game, assist per game etc. In reality, basketball game is far more than these number. In order to make an impact in the game as a player, one can do a lot of other things that affect the final outcome of the game. Lin nowadays is an upgraded version over the days of New York Nicks. He’s up his defensive game and turned himself into a defensive specialist, he is stronger physically, he learned to control the tempo, his ball handling and FG% have been steadily improving into elite level. His understanding of basketball game has grown huge. Most importantly, he possesses skill that is rarely found in many great basketball players in history. It is when he is the designated floor general; he can take his team into the next level. He could make scrub players play like decent players, he could make second class team play like first, sometime like an all star, as we have seen enough through these years. Moreover, He could even make first class team play like super class team, in theory. As long as his coach, his teammates trust him and respect his game. In addition to that, why many Lin fans find his game is so fun, exciting to watch? Part of it may be due to many of his play is fast paces, but out side of the box, there is one more trait in his game, that is creativity. He is so creative in a way that he had revolutionized pro basketball. Many of us could not imagine how could he thought of such a play for him and his teammates. He is already in a one of the kind special player state that still leave many of us scratching our heads. Call it magic or whatever, he is not only player maker but also inventor. Ironically, this is where shallow statistic usually fail to realize such decisive contribution to team’s Win/Loss ratio. Many may wonder why he is capable of doing that? In other words, like others mentioned, high basketball IQ, or player with a brain of a coach. For instance, we have seen in some incidents he took over McFail’s coach job by doing white boarding and drew play in the critical moments. On top of that, today’s Lin is way beyond personal stats, he can care much less about his stats, because not only stats are just a small part of a game, he can affect game and turn the tide against opposing team by many other way unseen by stats. Probably for him, the only stat that matters to him is “Win the game now.”

Make him fit or you pass it, a crossroad challenge to Hornet
It appeared Hornets stole Lin this season was simply using him as a consultant in order to help grow young players, improve outside shooting threat, and perhaps put some pressure onto Walker in hope that he improves his “PG skills.” It seemed successful so far, but what may have surprised Hornets FO were the facts that besides his stellar defensive effort since the beginning of this season, whenever Lin involved more and given more chance to run the offense, Hornets were playing as if they are close cousin of Golden State Warriors. The answer to that is just that simple, use Lin the right way as much as you possibly can, Mike D’Antoni’s style.

Jeremy Lin has made himself all around basketball player as many of us witnessed. On pretty much all counts, He is clearly the best and most efficient combo guard on Hornets roaster, regardless of his pay grade. Don’t forget that his unique ability to upgrade Hornet’s game. Apparently, coach Clifford’s usage of Lin has been quite small and consider Lin was used mainly for defensive purpose, in which case his full offensive talent has not been explored by Clifford, and Hornet is now a top 5 team in Eastern Conference. Imagine where Hornets may be if Lin is unleashed. Hornets are at the crossroad in deciding whether or not to change its long terms strategy to start embracing and making Jeremy as part of their long term picture.

  • Ace Pagoda

    I like your detailed post chirico and I am in agreement. The only thing at this point that I may be in slight disagreement is Charlotte actually giving JL a chance to do his thing and lead this team. There really does seem to be a politically correct mindset to preventing him from flourishing. It would take a MDA to set JL free and back him up. Cliff at this point either does not understand, does not trust or is of the PC mindset and cannot change. Reading previous posts about the MDA situation in NY where he asked Melo the ball stopper to be traded, and then when not resigned instead shows me MDA understood (better than most as he is the architect of modern BB), is no captured by this PC bull, and had the courage to stand by his position. In hindsight it could never, every have worked in NY, the bastion of PC mindset and the accompanying mediocrity.
    Something I have noticed over the past 3 years is that ironically, while Houston and LA tried to bury JL in positions in which he was set up to fail, he worked hard at improving in those positions to where he is noticeably improved: i.e. 3 point shooting, less turnover, better decision making, and significantly improved defense. His job on Reggie Jackson was huge. I don’t think he could have stopped Steph Curry because no one can stop him but he could have slowed him down a lot and made Klay Thompson beat them (which he would have done). Charlotte has a potentially exciting team if they allow JL to run the show because there are some good players there. I said before Detroit that JL would make Cody Zeller a star and this potential was seen, though Zeller having playing time helped. This will number Big Al’s days, much as if JL ran the show it would number KW’s days as the primary ball handler. Another major thing I have noticed that JL improve in in turnovers- he is much improved here. He does not rush headlong on occasion out of control as he sometimes used to. That onus seems to belong to Nic Batum now. Why too many turnovers to be a ball handler. If KW could accept a bench role, an off the bench scorer, then that could be the ideal spot for him because that requires hero ball and he has a scorers mentality. But Bleacher Report featured him in a story about NBA players who have “remade” themselves and noted KW as one of them because of his stats and they have been winning. We shall see what we shall see.

    • Chirico

      Ace Pagoda, Thanks for your comment. Imagine what if Walker comes off the bench, and Lin starts, how much better the first team may be? No, in fact, I agree with you on Lin’s situation in the Hornets in which FO does not intend to let Lin run his show and be the primary ball handler. It was the teammates who allow it to flow. For what Clifford’s real intention of keep Lin away from touching the ball is still unclear to me, I believe it was the team ball spirit at works. One for all, All for one. Nevertheless, like your pointed out, it seemed mostly like political arrangement among Hornets management, Coach, and players.

  • Ace Pagoda

    In this article today of at the hive: http://www.atthehive.com/2015/12/9/9873802/quarter-season-review-charlotte-hornets-this-is-awesome While giving credit to GM Cho for putting together this team they make the comment that he signed JL when nobody else would. WHAT?

    The writers of this website are clueless when it comes to basketball. It is a waste of time to read for anything relevant to basketball.

    • Chirico

      Ace Pagoda, sometimes article like this turn itself into a joke, but thanks for the link.

  • MrPingPong

    Nice write up Chirico! Thanks for taking the time to share your views and keep this wonderful blog going.

    Yes, Lin is a much better player now than his Linsanity days. He has grown into a well-rounded player on both sides of the floor. In the last game against the Pistons, Lin was very calm and very much in control of everything. It seemed like he was not going all out on offense to conserve energy for his defense and, just in case, for playing extended minutes. He did all the right thing in my view, creating plays and passing the ball to the open man. One thing I hope to see happen more in future games is the ball coming back to him after he gives it away. Ball movement is a whole lot better with Lin on the court. I think it will get better with Lin’s teammates trusting him more and allow him to direct traffic.

    I am resigned to the fact that Lin is being underused if not misused by Cliff. But Cliff is not gonna change what ain’t broke. No coach in the right mind will. It’s barely 1/4 of a season. An 82-game season is a marathon. Lin does not have to score big and play Linsane in every game. I like the pace Lin is maintaining for himself right now. Barring unforeseen serious injuries, Lin will finish strong, I am sure. His values will go up by season end.

    • Chirico

      Thank you, MrPingPong. I share your disappointment on situation JLin faces this season, we can only hope that Lin is happy and having fun this season and maybe moving on to another team and get the “starting Job” eventually. For what Clifford’s usage of Lin, I believe it is a some sort of political and preference mind set that holds FO from make any change in the line up to unleash Lin’s offense side of the game. Lin is actually doing a great job defensively as he has been told to focus on. However, as Lin fan, we do not see that Lin should be always used this way, it is a total waste of Lin’s bball talent.

  • Linfan123

    Thank you again for taking the time to put this website together and creating a forum for Jeremly Lin fans to communicate/vent etc without having to deal with all the hate you find on the various team sites. Lakersnation/rockets whatever….those places are cesspools. I enjoy this site.

    I agree with what you have written here and will not waste everyone’s time restating it point by point but to summarize what I think you are saying….Jeremy is at his full potential when he is being used properly (true pg). He represents a more modern style of play which brings out: ball movement, fast pace, open threes, and teamwork. The hornets have a decision to make….either… stick with Kemba and the typical type of play he represents or have the guts to go with Jeremy and embrace the better style of play AND the WINS it brings.

    I predict unfortunately they will go with Kemba and Jeremy will continue to be underutilized and undervalued. I hate say this…. but I fear it is true.

    I live in NC and have had the chance to see EVERY minute of every game on cable this year.
    This has been an interesting year for us Lin fans. There are some REAL positives.
    POSITIVES:
    1. Clifford recognizes and consistently praises Jeremy as a good defender. That has been very nice because he is a good defender and Clifford has had the guts to acknowledge it in spite of incorrect conventional wisdom. Good for Cliff
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    2. This team overall is a MUCH better team than either the Rockets or the Lakers. I can honestly say Lamb, Zeller, Batum, Frank K. and even Kemba have all played great at times this year. I believe Jeremy is better than Kemba overall and would bring more wins long term for all the reasons we all know BUT…….I have to admit Kemba can really be tough to guard when he has it rolling. He also is basically a team player at heart. I think Jeremy should be starting no doubt. I don’t feel as much frustration, however, with him being a backup to Kemba as I did to heaven forbid PATRICK BEVERLY and RONNIE freakin PRICE. Those situations were so unfair. Those were truly the DARK TIMES.

    3. Jeremy’s body language: I have been chastised on this site for making this point before, but as many Lin fans who have watched him closely know he does not hide his emotions well. You can tell when he is sincerely happy VS fake. He seems happier this year than I have seen him since NY. He and Kemba regularly high five and the key is it seems sincere. Same with Batum, Frank, Zeller, and really the entire team. (with the possible exception of Lamb. More on that later) Jeremy Lin for what ever reason seems to be in a good place with this team although I know he wishes he was starting and not getting stuck in the corner half the time when he is in.

    4. His Reputation: I pay attention to various articles out there being written about Jeremy. Always have. I have noticed a slight improvement in the overall tone out there in the NBA Blogosphere universe. There have been a couple of articles questioning whether he should be starting VS Kemba. There seems to be slightly less hate for Jeremy. Maybe people are giving him some credit for hanging tough through Houston and LA and viewing a bit more of an established veteran. His status in the league and media is not where should or could be if he were given the right chance to shine, but it seems to be once again the rise. Slowly.

    The Negatives:
    1. Obviously being misused/underused. We all know he will breakout if ever given the chance to run the show. Doesn’t look like that will be happening in Charlotte.

    2. Teammates resenting/not trusting Jeremy? I have noticed recently a few times where Jeremy Lamb looked Lin off and chose to not pass him the ball, even though it was clearly the right play to give it Lin. Don’t know yet what to make of this, but their may be a small amount of tension there. I could be wrong but something to keep an eye on.

    3. Cliff- Clifford respects Jeremy as a defender but doesn’t seem to understand the power Lin can bring in other areas such as facilitator and leadership.

    All in All this season has been more enjoyable for me and I am optimistic the Hornets keep winning as that only helps Jeremy out more!

    PS: Anybody else interested in live posting on this site during games? I was thinking of posting some during the last game but wasn’t sure if anybody else was out there.

    Thanks again for a great site and well thought out articles.

    • MrPingPong

      Thanks for stopping by and share your thoughts, Linfan123.

      I live in Houston and watched just about every Rockets home game when Lin was playing here. I recorded all of them and put the videos on Youtube.

      Yes, I’ll be watching the game tonight.
      Perhaps we can chat “live,” even though I do not type very fast.
      It would be fun if we can share our reactions to the game, during timeouts or something.

      🙂

      • Linfan 123

        Sounds like a plan Mr. Ping Pong! I will try to post some during game. That is great that you got to watch all those Rockets games. You probably know JLins game as well as anyone! Lets go Hornets tonight!

    • Chirico

      Thanks for your analysis and sharing your thoughts with us, Linfan123. As one of my intention, like some honest and intelligent basketball writer, to post this was to point out the obvious facts about Lin and Hornets. Yup, I agree with you, Lin’s offensive game is put in the locker room as Hornets plan for Walker and Batum as their primary ball handler and play maker. Clifford and Hornet do not really understand Lin’s game and potential because like I mentioned, Lin is not their typical type of NBA player. So, in another words, they are scared, in which natural reaction that many of them couldn’t agree to put down their bet in JLin. To us long time Lin fan, we clearly know they most like have bet the wrong player to their long term PG.

      And thanks for live reporting, it was fun. I did not the chance to join and watch tonight’s game but good thing was Hornets played really well tonight.

  • MrPingPong

    Hello Lin fans/non-fans and non Lin fans, just making conversation here…

    It’s game day with Lin and the Hornets against the visiting Heat. I watched the replay of the Heat vs Wizz game just to get some idea how the Heat played. Here are my take on the Heat from just that game only.

    1. The Heat is a very good team, with Dragon, Wage in the backcourt and Bosch as the stretch four. They can score and they can defend, especially Bosch who can shoot from long distance and with his length making life difficult for whoever he is guarding. Incidentally, Bosch missed a few wide open shots that would have changed the game flow completely. Even so, I think MW will do OK against Bosch. I also think Kemba can handle Dragon easily, but I’m not so sure about PJ against Wade.

    2. Whiteside, the Heat center, is a very good rim protector but not that much of an offensive threat. Zeller the Stellar will match up fine against Whiteside.

    3. Green, their #3, was filling in for the injured Loul Deng, did OK, though nothing spectacular. Batum should have no problem scoring over Green. Justise Winslow, their backup #3, played heavy minutes but didn’t do much besides grabbing 6 rebounds. Our Frank the Tank will show his worth to the home crowd tonight and will shine.

    4. Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson are their backup guards. They are really no-name players with Richardson being a rookie. Our Jeremy Brothers should run circles around the Heat bench.

    5. The Heat was upset by the Wizz, who played inspired basketball with tight defense and with John Wall and his sidekick, Bradley Beal, picking the Heat defense apart with PnRs, drive to the basket, kick outs to wide open men. The Wizz took 92 shots and made 46 while the Heat only shot 69 times and made 41. Yes, the Wizz defense was tight and the Heat could not create enough shots. I think the game was lost with the Heat making two critical TOs with about 2 min left and the score ied at 103-103. TOs at a time when ball possession was a matter of “life-and-death” did them in.

    So the moral of the story is, though the Heat is a good team, the Hornets are just as good and perhaps better, especially with the Jeremy Brothers running the bench. Prediction: Hornets win with tough defense, lower TO, and better 3 pt shooting.

    Enjoy the game tonight, everyone, wherever you are on this WEB! 🙂

    • Linfan 123

      Great pregame analysis!

      • MrPingPong

        Thanks Linfan123.

        I’m watching the Heat game feed on my computer.
        The latest news is Loul Deng is back and will come off the bench to play.
        Hornets will prevail (as long as Lin gets to play meaningful minutes).

        I’m slow at typing and not too fast at thinking.
        So just keep typing on your end, I will try to oblige on my end.
        Anyone else wants to join us?
        🙂

  • Linfan123

    Jeremy sporting a new dooo?! Slicked back in pony tail. a little strange but maybe it will help him shoot 3s better you never know

    • MrPingPong

      Yep notices that.
      New hairdo for Lin, new way to make Lin fans go crazy!
      Ball is moving well.

  • Linfan123

    Great Start by Hornets! up 14 -6 !!! 1st place in division with win tonight

    • MrPingPong

      The key is to keep the ball moving, and the Hornets are doing just that.
      Zeller seems to get over the original intimidation by Whiteside.

  • MrPingPong

    So far so good.
    Gotta keep Whiteside off the paint.

  • Linfan123

    LIN in the game a bit early for him at the 4 min mark. HITS FIRST JUMPER!! 1 for 1 so far with new hairdoo!

    • MrPingPong

      The Jeremy Brothers are in.
      Lin for 3!

  • MrPingPong

    Excellent ball movement.
    Frank the Tank!

  • MrPingPong

    Lin is running floor!
    I like that!

  • MrPingPong

    Come on Hawes!
    Lin made a beautiful pass to Hawes right under the basket and Hawed blew it.
    A missed assist for Lin.

  • MrPingPong

    Another missed assist for Lin.
    Before soon, his teammates will get Lin! 🙂

  • Linfan123

    Hornets are playing great!! To quote our leader JLintel “a mini version of the Warriors” passing the ball around like crazy, stroking threes, and playing great D. Lin’s D has been great!
    **Lin lost 2 assists on great feeds under the basket one to S. Hawes and another to Marvin Harrison. Seems like that happens to Lin a lot but he is making the pass. Zeller would have dunked them both. Ok Ill be quiet for a while. Again TEAM playing great. Ill check back in the 2nd half.

    • MrPingPong

      Yep, Lin is playing very well, very calm and under control.

  • MrPingPong

    Ball movement is contagious among the Hornets.
    Treys are raining down: 7/12 = 58.3%!

  • MrPingPong

    Hornets are killing them: 52-32, 2:45 to go in the second.
    Whiteside is clumsy and is not really an offensive threat: defense yes, but offense no!

  • pistolpete

    Hornets look like Golden State or San Antonio – great ball movement! Bosch and Wade were pretty quiet in the first half but they’ll probably “Heat” up in the 2nd and Miami will make a run. If the Hornets keep moving the ball and playing great defense they should win however.

    • MrPingPong

      Yes, Wade and Bosch are too good to stay quiet for long.
      The key is to play tough defense by contesting every shot.

    • MrPingPong

      Unselfish BB by the Hornets.
      Batum is en route to a triple D!

      • MrPingPong

        Batum from Lin: OOP and triple D!

  • Linfan123

    Mr. Ping Pong sorry I missed your posts I had to do some work putting kids to sleep. Saw the first half and pieces of 2nd half. You are right VERY unselfish play tonight by entire team. Batum played an unbelievably good game.
    As for Jeremy. Again GREAT Defense he is almost becoming somewhat of a stopper in my biased opinion. He struggled a little on Offense tonight. He really needs to start hitting those open threes that are coming off the passing. I attribute his missing those to 1. limited playing time to develop rhythm 2. Energy being expended on defense 3. being just a bit hesitant. He made some nice passes.
    What is up with Hawes robbing JLIN of assists 🙂 Good win overall I appreciate your positivity.

    • MrPingPong

      No problem, Linfan123! Your children have first priority. It would be nice if Lin buried those two wide open threes. He will figure it out in due time. There is a lot of season left. The important thing now is the team is playing team ball and winning.

  • pistolpete

    Jeremy’s shooting problem – spends too much time on hairdo’s!

    • MrPingPong

      You are onto something, I think, Pistol!
      I’m surprised Lin could still play defense with that slick and slippery hairdo.

  • old & in the way

    Charlotte has the second best record in the Eastern Conference. I certainly didn’t expect this with Jeremy getting misused to such an extreme. But his defense has been excellent. They have played 13 home games where they are 10-3 and only 8 road games where they are 3-5 so their record is a bit skewed to the high end based on the abundance of home games relative to road games. But even at that I never expected to see them at the 2 seed in the east without Jeremy contributing more on the offensive end of the court and/or starting at PG. Also, just for the record I think Mr. Ping & Pong is a loveable person and I like him immensely but I do think that MDA’s resignation from both New York and Los Angeles was an honorable act and the right thing to do under the circumstances. I do not in any way consider him to be a “quitter.” But I do agree that it is irrelevant what any of us think of MDA and most relevant what Jeremy thinks of him. My understanding is that Jeremy has a very close and positive relationship with MDA to this day so I would love to see Jeremy play for him again at some point. I consider MDA to be a very good coach and do not understand why he has not been rehired somewhere by now. I don’t think he gets the respect and credit that he deserves for having contributed to and influenced the modern contemporary game of basketball as it is currently being played to perfection in the NBA by teams like Golden State. He seems to be very much unappreciated just like Jeremy Lin. Will someone tell me why?

    • Chirico

      Dear the old and in,

      I do, like you, hope the reunion of MDA and Lin. however, like JLin has been saying “God’s plan for you is not always match what you would like to have” Regardless how well Hornets are doing, as JLIntel and I mentioned, their are mostly going to land on 6~8 place in the Eastern Conference. I suspect Lin was kept from flourishing is not coaches who do not know his game through out the years. It is that they can not let that happen. For Houston, McFail’s pride and Moery’s revenge. For Lakers, Kome’s enormous ego, and BS’s BS. For Hornets, I am afraid that it is inception of “Lin is a back up play” and favoritism.

  • Sorry I missed out on the live commenting here, all. But I’m so glad to see others live-commenting here. Hope that trend continues. And thanks so much chirico for writing a post. i actually haven’t had a chance to read it or many of the comments here, but look forward to reading your post soon.

    I did see the game tonight and I have to say that tonight’s game vs. Heat was the best game the Hornets have played–especially the ball movement. That was some of the best ball movement I’ve seen. Tremendous. The Hornets have a bunch of unselfish players, which is so rare in the NBA and which is why the Hornets are playing at such a high level.

    I gotta hand it to coach Clifford, he was right about Batum and I was wrong about Batum. Batum has shown himself to be an excellent play maker. I think he’s a true point forward and probably one of the best at it. His ball handling is still shaky, but his passing is superb. Sure, he’ll have his share of turnovers, because he’s always looking to make plays. But I think it’s a good trade off overall.

    I think if this continues, Lin will find it very hard to leave this team and will likely accept a lesser role on this team than a bigger role on another team. It’s hard to find a team that has this many unselfish players and this many high character guys. To Lin, this stuff might be just as important as him starting on a team. So at the moment, I think Lin is going to stay with the Hornets in a back up role. If the Hornets team keeps playing like this, it’s a fun team to be a part of. Very similar to the Linsanity run, where all guys are playing unselfishly.

    • Chirico

      You welcome, dear Philosopher, anytime.

      Whenever I am unleashed from my regular routine, I may be able to contribute in joining you guys’s discussion of our man, Lin.

      I forgot to question this, “If Jeremy Lin is a much better player this year than three years ago, why is he perceived by sports media as a quality bench player” Jeremy Lin does not really need MDA in order to flourish, as long as his coach trusts him let him be the “PG”.

      “Tell me any PG in the NBA history whose coach did not trust him and still constantly played exceed expectation on a seasonal basis.” I am afraid if we have an honor like that in the NBA, it belongs to Jeremy Lin.

      • Chirico

        Following my first question: “OK, you(Sports media) say he a great back up player. So tell me why was a great back up player three years ago before he became a great back up player beat NBA records of point and assist in first seven games and sparked Linsanity?” “Tell me a back up player who could drop 38 points on Kobe three years ago before he became a great back up player?”

        “Huh?”

    • pistolpete

      Lin’s individual stats and minutes are disappointing but the upside is that this team looks like they could be a contender if they continue to share the ball and play great defense. If they go far in the playoffs and Lin is an integral part of it then it will be noticed by other teams if he chooses to leave the Hornets. The ironic part of all this is that he is now a defensive stopper even though he lost his starting job in Houston because of his defense. Shows how much of a fraud McHale was.

  • Chirico
  • Ace Pagoda

    Thank you for the link. I read through their NBA postings and they had quite a few articles on using JL more at the PG. This was surprising and their reasoning was pretty much spot on, not just the rantings of a Lin-Fan. JL needs more minutes and more consistent minutes to improve his shooting. The way he is being played is very inconsistent, from not being able to play his game as a PG to sitting in the corner when he is playing. I don’t understand why Clifford does not just take KW completely out and let JL run the team rather than have two PG’s in the game, and using one of the PG’s, the better one, act as a SG. This is shades of Houston. I actually think KW would be better off sitting in the corner shooting unguarded 3’s since that is what many are saying he has improved upon, his shooting. There was a Chicago article too lamenting the failings of the Bulls. They have a lot of talent but the wrong kind for what Holberg has said he wants to do- run down the floor and score. Gasol does not fit there. If they could trade him and Derek Rose and get JL they could play Noah again who is mobile and defense, Butler who is super talented and does not need to handle the ball, McDermott who would thrive as a shooter, Mirotic who is tall, can shoot and run the floor and move Taj Gibson into more playing time for running and rebounding. Then they have Heinrich, Aaron Brooks and Mike Dunleavy on the bench. Could be a dynamic team and it would fit both Holberg’s plans and JL style to a tee. Tony Snell could come alive in this system too.

  • MrPingPong

    Hello Lin fans/non-fans and non Lin fans, just making conversation here…

    It’s game day for Lin and the Hornets against the Grizz on their home court. I haven’t had the time to study the Grizz’s game films, so as a result, I do not have much to say here beside regurgitating what my Ouija board has come up with.

    5. Mark Gasol: we all know how good he is, one of the more versatile centers in the NBA. He can shoot short range, mid range and long range and can rebound too. Our Zeller the Stellar will have a hard time containing Gasol. But on the other hand, Zeller has done such a great job as starting center in the last two games. Gasol does not know Zeller’s game and will be caught by surprise!

    4. Zebo: we all know how good Zebo is, a non-nonsense blue-collar all-star at #4. He can surely finish his close range and mid range shots but simply does not shoot threes. MW is more versatile and will draw Zebo away from the basket with his long range threats, creating space for Kemba, Batum and PJ to attack.

    3. Jeff Green: there is not much to say about Green, except that he has a good FT percentage. Green is probably one of the weaker links in the Grizz’s starting lineup. Batum will run circles around Green.

    2. Tony Allen: once considered as a premier perimeter defender, TA is getting old and has lost half a step or so, meaning he is no longer good at defending. On top of that, his short range, mid range, long range and free throw percentage are pretty dismal. He is not a threat defensively nor offensively. He is the other weaker links of their starting lineup. PJ should and will have a great time!

    1. Mike Conley: an all-star in my view. I really like Conley with his professionalism and unassuming way. Here a link to a comparison between Conley and Kemba.

    http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/memphis-grizzlies/players/mike-conley/comparison/13/14/210/57

    It’s a toss-up, in my interpretation. But I’ll give a nod to Conley since he’ll be playing at home.

    0. Matt Barnes, Mario Chalmers and Courtney Lee: a solid bench. Incidentally, Barnes sank a half-court hail marry shot with time running out in last Wednesday game to beat the Pistons on their home court. That same prayer shot will not happen again tonight, not with the Jeremy Brothers and Frank the Tank running circles around them.

    So there you have it, from the above, I predict another win by Lin and the Hornets because they are younger, faster, hungrier and willing to move and share the ball like nothing the Grizz have seen so far. 🙂

    Aside: I agree with our Philosopher’s take a while back that PJ is just a place-holder for MKG while MKG is recovering from his injury. However, it just dawns on me that PJ also serves as a comic relief for these intense Hornets games. I laughed every time PJ shot the ball, whether or not he made it.

  • Linfan123

    For those of you who can’t see the game.
    A. Starter off to rough start. Got down by 13 early.
    B. Jeremy with yet another crazy hair door
    C. He hit his first shot of the game FOR THREE and made a nice pass to Kemba for layup. I think they will climb back but Cliff should have put Lin in sooner. He is unfortunately committed to his current rotation times it seems

    • MrPingPong

      All he does is Lin! 🙂

  • Linfan123

    Exactly! how about 15pts in the first half! best game as a hornet yet!
    The Time Warner Cable announcers (Stephanie Ready and Dell Curry) have been very complimentary of Lin all year. Tonight Stephanie kinda got on my nerves because Jeremy got a nice steal and she said “the knock on him has been he can’t defend but he has really worked moving more efficiently to become a better defender” she was acting it was some big surprise he got a steal LOL For the most part thought they have been very positive towards Jeremy.
    Great First Half!

    • Chirico

      Thanks a lot , Linfan123,
      I can’t watch the game but I can feel it with your words. Go Lin!

      • Linfan123

        Your welcome. Would have posted more but once again I got distracted during the second half. This team is fun to watch! I wish Jeremy was playing more but I have to admit I find myself rooting for the whole team as they have been the most respectful to Jeremy of any team yet. Second place in the east!! I think the team success is helping Jeremy’s rep rebound a bit.

  • MrPingPong

    Just wondering who the local barber for Lin is…

  • pistolpete

    Wow – what a tremendous first half by Lin! Linsanity 1 wasn’t any better. I’m finally seeing posters on atthehive saying that they should resign him with a much better contract. If he keeps playing anywhere near this level he has a good chance for 6th man of the year award. He’s just got to be careful not to touch his hair during games or the ball will slide off his fingers. 🙂

    • MrPingPong

      I missed the second half of the Grizz game, but agreed Pistol, from my Lincentric view, Lin was awesome in the first half.

      And yes, sharp hairdo indeed! 😉

  • Forthelin

    I think Jeremy is trying to throw a nod to Pete Maravich with his hair flopping about, even with the grease. Definitely, he looks much more Asian, which is way cool and makes quite a statement. I watched the second half, and thought Lin was having a bad night only to find later his second quarter heroics! Go Lin!

  • Linfan123

    Not a good game for the starters or coach Clifford tonight. Starters struggled to start both halves only to have the bench (Jeremy and Jeremy: stop me if you’ve seen this movie before) change the tide and bring them all the way back. Kemba had some really bad hero ball moments, Batum had the ball top of the key down by 3 with 6 seconds left for the game tying shot……and had JLin WIDE OPEN on the wing but chose to force up a three of his own from about 6 feet behind the line rather than make the right play for a shorter open 3 for Lin. Result? Airball that missed short and right. You could see the disappointment on Jeremys face for brief moment. Not a good shot and another example of something I have noticed where Lamb, Batum, and Kemba occasionally look JLin off to make a worse basketball play. It is not all the time but enough to notice. Clifford very slow to recognize starters struggles tonight. JLin played entire 4th quarter but was not primary ball handler down stretch in spite of being one of the few effective players tonight. This will be what holds this team back I feel. Cliff overlooks when Kemba is struggling. Oh well…….on to the next game I guess.

    • old & in the way

      I am neither able to listen to or watch Jeremy’s games but I do monitor them on the play-by-play service on the NBA website. I wondered why Jeremy didn’t take a shot the last 1:42 of the game. I appreciate your explanation that he was open on the last shot but sort of typically Batum forced a bad shot and missed it rather than make the good pass to Jeremy for a wide open shot. I’m glad Jeremy played 32 minutes tonight and played very well it seemed from the play-by-play descriptions and the box score, but I’m still not happy with Batum/Walker/Lamb’s treatment of Jeremy Lin at times. If Jeremy was wide open for a three on that last shot Batum should have passed the damn ball to him. Why do people say that this Charlotte team plays unselfishly? It doesn’t always seem so to me but like I say all I’m doing is monitoring the play-by-play so it is difficult for me to glean what is actually going on. Did Jeremy even touch the ball after the 1:42 mark? Can someone give me a more detailed analysis of that last 1:42 please? I haven’t yet signed up for any of the radio/television online services as I only want to watch or listen to the games if Jeremy is being given significant playing time like tonight. But I think this is his first 30+ minute game of the entire season up to now. Right? I think so. I’m relying on people’s posts here to help me fill in the gaps in what I can know from just monitoring the games. Not good but NBA wants $120 for a seasonal television pass and up to now Jeremy hasn’t been playing enough to justify paying that much. The radio service is only $10 for the entire season but I would really prefer to be able to watch the games. I wouldn’t even mind seeing them after the fact if someone were posting them on You Tube. Any volunteers to do that?

      • Ace Pagoda

        I, like you, would pay for the NBA subscription service if JL was going to play enough. I almost bought last year when he was with the Lakers but glad I did wait as you know what happened. If it looks like he will get a fair chance and be used in the proper way I would probably spring for the subscription, but NBA celebrity ball does not interest me enough anymore to watch teams waltz through a heavy 82 game schedule just to get tot he playoffs. Combine that with teams that are trying to tank like Phila and LA for now, other later and this is bad for NBA ball. On the last two occasions when Charlotte has played a few hours after the game you can go on You Tube and search “jeremy lin 12/12/15 Boston Celtics” (other dates and teams for other games) and someone will put together a clip of JL highlights. I don’t know who does it but it is pretty nice, pro quality too. I would like to see when he screws up as well though too. Big spread in +/- between KW and JW. I figured this would happen when Charlotte ran into a well coached team that would shut down KW and Batum and make Charlotte beat them with someone else. Clifford, if he was smart, would have unleashed the Jeremy’s and Zeller and took it to them. But he did not. I though that when a team shut down KW and forced Clifford’s hand that it could have been a turning point, like a light going off, but the light stayed dark. KW and Batum are not Curry and Thompson and they don’t have the supporting cast. But JL and JL and KW and Batum and Zeller would be very tough in their proper roles. Why are they wasting minutes on PJ?

      • Ace Pagoda

        Here you go OITW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4u9z2Ss4o

        Highlights of JL in the Celtics game

    • Ace Pagoda

      I wonder if they are paying this guy to say what I just said?

      http://sportige.com/charlotte-hornets-cant-let-the-best-of-jeremy-lin-go-to-waste-88747/

  • Hi all, having followed Jeremy Lin’s career so far I am starting to see an interesting pattern in the ebb-and-flow of his on-court performances. For the most part I have attributed this to the external factors, such as team chemistry, support (or lack of) from the coach and front office. As many of you have pointed out Lin seems to be consistently denied the opportunity to be effective and help the team as he knows best.

    Increasingly, however, I start to observe a different kind of impediment. One that is more internal in nature and is a product of the deep-rooted Confucianism that takes a stronghold of the Asian/ Asian American psyche. I am not saying this as a self-depreciating comment (as I myself am Asian European), but rather a self-reflective statement to invite open discussions and healthy debate. Let me explain with a couple of examples.

    My first example is not from Lin or basketball, but an interview with MC Jin. Just like Lin Jin was much of a trailblazer in same the vein by being the first Asian American rapper that gained main-stream attention. In this particular interview (https://youtu.be/ZzqkLG3HmAY) Jin shared his experience working with Kanye, who helped produce a track on his debut album. Specifically Jin reflected that as a result of his awestruck respect for Kanye he practically stopped himself from contributing artistically to the song in a way he perhaps should have. In different words Jin essentially conveyed a sense of frustration from ‘over-respecting’ seniority, which is a definitive trait of the kind of Confucius beliefs prevalent in Asian cultures.

    Fast forward to another example closer to topic (and one that is probably familiar to most of you). In one of last season’s Lakers games, when Lin and Kobe were playing together, the duo had an open run-in with each other over the decision to foul Mike Conley of the Memphis Grizzlies with 20 seconds left in the fourth quarter on a 1-point game. Kobe visibly screamed at Lin to make the foul and stop the clock, while Lin insisted on waiting for an instruction from the coach. Eventually Kobe ran up to Conley and broke up the play himself, and Lin took on the blame for failing to execute at the key moment.

    I think you know where I am going with these two examples. In short I feel that, while there are external, political factors that prevent NBA teams from fully trusting in Lin (such as over-reliance on franchise stars), a big part of this is attributed to his own subconscious culture and self-doubt. More often than not we see him hesitate to take over leadership of the team and restraining himself for fear of falling out of favor from the coach and his teammates. Personally I think Lin does so out of the best of intentions. However in a highly competitive sport where teams and players focus too often on short-term goals, the only way for Lin to succeed is to play fearlessly and focus on his own brand of basketball. As Derrick Rose once said self-belief and confidence is what separates the great players from the rest, and it may just be what Lin needs right now to revive his career in a big way.

    This is a bit of a controversial topic and hopefully you all can share some thoughts on this as well.

    • Ace Pagoda

      I remember the incident from the Lakers with Kobe on the intentional. If I remember correctly also, JL did not foul because of instruction from Coach Scott. The onus was on Scott, it was published and nothing more was said of it. What could JL say? Other than Coach Scott told him not to foul. Kobe went off before he knew what happened, which is understandable given his personality and JL said nothing, given his personality. I can appreciate your insight as to the cultural background thing and I know that it is a real thing. JL is going to have to overcome this background as it does fit well within the dog eat dog culture of pro sports- or any sport or in mainstream American life. On the other hand, Charlotte, if they want to get the most out of one of their players should figure out a way to get the most out of JL and his background just like they try to accommodate other players with “problems” usually related to deprived backgrounds. However the backgrounds many of the players grew up fits into the pro sports-celebrity business that is NBA ball. Reading many of the posters here is more of an intellectual exercise as it is a fan-based exchange of ideas and opinions. This is in stark contrast to the morons who populate most other websites with their vulgarity, name calling, intimidation and other thoughtless acts. However this type of behavior, judging from the number of comments on these blogs, is representative of mainstream American (and maybe other) pro sports. The English do not comport themselves very well in their football but it is who they are. I read comments from other bloggers and websites that refer to JL wanting to come to Charlotte because there is no pressure like after the big contract in Houston and the limelight in LA playing with Kobe. Both of those environments and situations, as has been discussed plenty on this website where terrible for JL, maybe because of his reticence due to his cultural background as you suggest. However, for those commentators to suggest such a thing, making it sound like JL is “weak” or can’t take pressure conveniently forget those magical days in NY, when MDA allowed JL to play his (very aggressive) game against the NBA. When the rest of the league woke up and did not want to be embarrassed they keyed on him and he did not have the supporting cast to back him up though he did make them all better. I remember in particular the Miami game where they went very hard at him, and beat him down, but that is what you do to players who can take you down, it is respecting those abilities. Then of course MDA left, Melo came back, and without a basketball mind like MDA and his support the NY vultures swooped. The conduct of the front office was despicable and cowardly, and maybe if JL was more aggressive he would have given them a piece of his mind because they have been nothing ever since those magical days in NY. They threw it all away but they still have Melo the ballstopper. I have made comments here about places he could be traded to, where his talents would have a chance to shine, because his talent is to help the team win. I said Holberg and Chicago because Holberg in an article said exactly what he wanted to do on offense and it is exactly what JL does- move the ball aggressively into the offense. Other teams would benefit from this talent, including Charlotte but they don’t recognize the same things posters on this blog do, for whatever reason. I saw a reference in an article today that his play on the bench is worthy of a 6th man award. He does not want and should not accept 6th man- he is a starter and the main engine for the offense, and now also defense. I also said, if they are not going to utilize him, then after a few more games if things continue in this same way, he should demand a trade because Charlotte is not doing what we have been told they would do in regards to his play. this is the American way, cultural background notwithstanding, and I am sure he has advisors who have put this idea forward for his consideration. Charlotte has the base for a lot of good things but they are limiting themselves by not recognizing JL the player as not the same as JL the Asian-American. What you have posted I have thought of too, and I think it is an appropriate subject that can be discussed on a website such as this.

    • ashley

      I agree with you, SoulJourner. Quite a few Lin fans have been complaining that Lin’s not taking enough shots. And from the few times I watched, I even wonder whether Lin lacks confidence in shooting, because he almost always passed up shots that I would expect him to take.

      Since the regular season began, Lin hasn’t been playing as aggressively as in the preseason where he wouldn’t hesitate to take even a contested shot. In the first Knicks game and the Kings game, where he got much less playing time, his Linsane performance in crunch time got the win for the team. It’s sad and unfair that his heroic play wasn’t rewarded with more playing time in the subsequent games. However, with more playing time these past few games, I ‘d expect him to be more aggressive–the Hornets might have won had he taken over the game like he did before. I knew it would always be Kemba and Batum that took care of the last shot, but perhaps Lin could have done more to win the trust from his coach and even teammates.

      I feel Lin’s overly unselfish (courteous or obedient) nature has rendered him too passive in a competitive sport and possibly has even hindered his development in the NBA. As much as it could reflect an Asian psyche shaped by Confucianism, as SoulJourner figures, his Christian belief should have also played a big role. As we all know, Lin is a devoted Christian, and his prayer this season tells us that he’s been telling himself that he’s not the center of the universe and he’s been dealing with his “pride” issue. No doubt his religion has helped him through many difficult times; just not sure if it might have also held him back in some way.

    • Without going into too much detail, I agree with your assessment SoulJourner. I want to also add that I think Lin is sometimes overly concerned with doing “the right thing” and that’s what causes him to hesitate too much. He’s always gong through his options and trying to figure out what the right one is. Also, I notice that Lin gets a little self-conscious when he’s scores a few times in a row and he’ll not want the ball the next time down the court, because he doesn’t want to be seen as trying to take over the game and get attention. Also, I think trying to do the “right thing” causes Lin to stay in the corner more than probably even the coach wants, because he doesn’t want to mess up the spacing on the floor. In the game vs. the Celtics, Lin probably could have demanded the ball more in the 4th and his teammates wouldn’t have minded. Lin clearly had his way with the Celtics, at least much more so than Kemba. In fact, if Clifford hadn’t put Kemba back into the game, the Hornets would have won. Once Kemba came back into the game in the 4th, Lin was no longer involved in the offense and that’s what caused the loss.

  • pistolpete

    It was very frustrating to watch the game in the 3rd quarter last night when Kemba was being destroyed by IT and Clifford stubbornly stuck to his substitution scri t. He played Kemba and Batum too much the night before in the Grizzlies blowout and then didn’t substitute early enough in the 3rd quarter when they were obviously tired. As usual Lin came in and the team made up a large deficit to go ahead in the 4th until Kemba returned. Kemba just can’t defend the better point guards and the team won’t reach the next level unless they have Lin guard them on defense and run the offense. Clifford is stubborn but not stupid and he is probably starting to realize this but because of politics he can’t make radical changes. During he Grizzly game he did yell out to Lin to play PG a few times even though Kemba was in the game so it seems his eyes are starting to open. On the plus side Jeremy did get 32 minutes of PT last night which is a very good sign but it seems only Kemba and Batum handle the ball and take shots in crunch time without regard to teamwork. This has to stop if they want to defeat the better teams.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Another interesting article from JL advocate website Sportige (what is it with these guys?) http://sportige.com/jeremy-lin-charlotte-hornets-philadelphia-76ers-88839/
    The rumor is that MDA might be an “associate head coach”, or maybe that is assistant. They gave the current coach, Brett Brown a two year extension, probably to comfort him. I don’t know what this makes his whole contract length though. New “advisor” in Jerry Colangelo so with MDA you have a developing Phoenix East with the two innovators in place of modern basketball (team). I looked at the Philadelphia roster obviously loaded with youth. For all of their tanking they don’t have much to show for it. I would advise JL not to go to Philly to play for MDA because it looks like a lot of rebuilding. However, they could, between this year and next revamp the roster with trades and maybe a free agent though it is hard to see a Kevin Durant wanting to go to Philly though he would fit into the MDA system but with JL instead of Russ. Intriguing intrigue building in the City of Brotherly Love. If nothing else it will give Charlotte something to think about in re-signing JL and allowing him to play PG for them.

    • ashley

      If JLin can be “the PG” in Philly, then I’m all for him going there to reunite with MD. I don’t think he has a chance in Charlotte because there are already two starting PGs in Kemba and Batum. Before I thought Kemba is the only PG ahead of him, then it turns out that Batum is also the chosen one, and he’s got plenty of time to develop and become a decent PG–so I won’t say Mr. Philosopher was wrong before about Batum. In a word, I think in Charlotte, Lin will always be a back-up and won’t get enough chances to practice his PG skills, which is a shame.

      BTW, NBA all-star voting has begun. So have you started voting for our guy yet?

      • Ace Pagoda

        Backing you up with stats is this article: http://sportige.com/charlotte-hornets-jeremy-lin-kemba-walker-steve-clifford-stats-88872/ Who are these guys? What is up with them and JL? They do a disproportionate number of articles on their NBA section about JL in Charlotte. I check them out everyday now.. I wish they would do possible trade speculations with JL involved. For all of their tanking Philly does not seem to have much talent to offer Charlotte though matching salaries would be easy. I still like Chicago because of the big stage and because Hoibergs style fits JL.

  • Ace Pagoda

    Another post from Sportige today re JL and his role leading the bench and the importance of that bench, 4th in the NBA. They also make reference to Cliff’s allowing JL more minutes in 4 of the last 5 games and that maybe he is seeing the light of how JL (and the PG position) plays in this new offense. One can only hope. It seems like there is a conflict of change from past offense of iso ball a la Jefferson-KW and the new spread the floor drive it up and pass the damn ball.

  • Linfan123

    OK Lin/Hornet fans:
    Report from the first half so far.
    Once again……starters off to sluggish/bad start. Got down by 10 early. Seems like that happens a lot.
    Jeremy playing very well thus far. 7 pts 1/2 on threes.
    Had a awesome dish that S. Hawes blew the assist….again
    By the way Batum makes some nice plays from time to time but he makes some crazy turnovers….
    Arghh down by 13 at half

  • pistolpete

    Lin played well but was slowed down a little by his hairstyle. I don’t know who his local barber is MrPingPong but someone should tell him to revert to Lin’s hairstyle from last game – looks better and less wind drag. Orlando was on fire and got a lot of open shots due to penetration by their guards (they kept blowing by Kemba) and kick outs. Credit must be given to Orlando however for their game plan and great shooting. Lin got the most minutes of anyone and once again played great D. His shooting was a little off and he passed instead of taking a layup a few times. That’s who is is however – a team player first and foremost. I’d rather see him err on over passing than being a ballhog however. May hurt his stats but is great for team chemistry. There’s a reason the team is almost 10 points better with him on the floor. Anyhow Orlando played well and is very good on their homecourt. On to the next game!

  • Ace Pagoda

    Wish I could see the game where JL has more minutes than KW and is playing well but KW is playing well also. Best of both worlds.

  • pistolpete

    Wow! Linsanity 2! The fewer “stars” that play the better the team and Lin does. I guess I was wrong about his hairstyle. 🙂

    • MrPingPong

      We LoFs were wrong about a lot of things about Lin, weren’t we? 😉

  • Ace Pagoda

    great game against a good Toronto team. 52 points from Jl and KW. Obviously they can work together and work well. If they played like this against Boston they should not have lost. Orlando on the road and any other road games they will have to play better. Cliff must have lost his minutes count on JL.

    • old & in the way

      Make that 62 points from Jeremy and Kemba!!!

  • old & in the way

    No Batum tonight is why I think Jeremy got so many minutes. Don’t know what is wrong with Batum but I haven’t read the other posts yet. Maybe someone else has already covered what happened to Batum. Jeremy should be the regular starter and I don’t care who they sit to make room for him but it should happen now if not sooner.

    • pistolpete

      Agreed! First time the “starters” had the lead in the 1st Q in a while. It’s a no brainer but I doubt it will happen right away. Lin has to take charge more when the “star” returns and realize he is really THE STAR. That will not happen right away either – the man is too humble. Eventually though the cream will rise to the top.

      • old & in the way

        It has risen!!

        • pistolpete

          True 🙂 Because of what happened in the past when he had breakout games ( 38 points against the Spurs when Harden was sick, etc.) and then he was given less pt and marginalized I’m still skeptical in the back of my mind. With Clifford though I think this is the breakout moment for Lin and he will become a member of the :big three” – Kemba, Batum.and Lin.