A Must-Read Article on the Bond between Jeremy Lin and Kenny Atkinson

Howard Beck just wrote the most in-depth article about Jeremy Lin’s bond with Kenny Atkinson. Back when I was fixated on Jeremy Lin joining the Nets, I felt that Lin and Atkinson have a connection that is closer than the one Lin has with D’Antoni. Well, this article, entitled “Linsanity a Memory, Nets Offering Second Act for Jeremy Lin and Kenny Atkinson” delves into this.

At the peak of Linsanity, Jeremy Lin scrawled four plays on a piece of paper and handed it to Atkinson prior to tip off. Well, it’s four years later and Atkinson still has that scratch paper on which Lin drew out those plays. That should tell you how much Atkinson thinks of Jeremy Lin.

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Not only has Atkinson kept this piece of scratch paper, he has also continued to watch Lin’s games and text Lin the morning after good games praising Lin’s passing or pace:

“I was just like, ‘Dude, we’re three years removed from New York. Why are you still, like, watching my games, you know?'” Lin said, chuckling. “I knew he always still cared about me. I just knew, like, we weren’t going to be able to have the same dialogue we used to.”

But the texts continued—Atkinson congratulating Lin on his moves to L.A. and Charlotte, and Lin checking in when the Hawks made a big playoff run.

It’s pretty clear from the article that Atkinson respects Lin a great deal. Here’s an excerpt that exemplifies this:

Where another player might just follow directions blindly, Lin would question everything, then add his own take.

“He’d say it politely, but he would see things almost two levels deep,” Atkinson said. “In film, it was the same way. He would accept the coaching, but then he was curious about other things that happened in that particular play. And then he would see things that I wouldn’t see.”

And sometimes Atkinson would see things that Lin refused to see—a moment when he should have attacked but took the easy jumper.

“Stubborn as hell,” Atkinson said of Lin, who laughs heartily when the quote is relayed to him.

“That’s awesome,” Lin, still laughing, said without dismissing the assertion. “There’s times where he’s just like, ‘Aw, you’re not going to listen to me.’ And I’ll just start dying laughing.”

This is why I’m not going to nitpick the coaching this season. Unlike in past seasons, I know Lin finally has a coach who respects him and will be open to his ideas. I am aware that a lot of Lin fans are complaining about the lack of PnRs, etc. If I didn’t feel Lin and Atkinson have a close bond, I would complain about this, as well. But this season, I am more patient, since I know Lin has probably already talked to Atkinson in depth about a lot of the concerns he has and they’re both trying to figure it all out as the season wears on.

They have been together for just four months, but Lin said he and Atkinson have spoken more in that time than Lin did in his entire two years with McHale or his one season with Scott.

“There’s definitely a special bond,” Atkinson said. “It’s beyond coach-player. It’s respect, but friendship really.”

Back when I was fixated on Lin joining the Nets, I felt strongly that Lin would never forget that Atkinson was the one who believed in him when he was a nobody. That stuff matters a great deal to Lin and in this article, Lin says pretty much just what I’ve been thinking:

“I was literally the 15th guy,” Lin said. “Everyone knew I was going to get cut. I knew I was going to get cut. And [Atkinson] was still pouring everything into me like I was his star player. And so to me, that’s when I saw, hey, this guy’s a man of character. And I’ll never have to question that about him. Because I saw how he treated me before everything happened.”

This article also makes me realize that Atkinson wants Lin to be more of a passing PG than a scoring PG, which is a concern for me. During Linsanity, while fans “gushed over Lin’s scoring prowess,” Atkinson felt Lin’s passing was underappreciated. Also, here’s another excerpt that sheds light on why Atkinson wants Lin to be more of a passing PG:

By the time free agency opened July 1, Atkinson had made his pitch to Marks.

“There was a certain point in that process,” Atkinson said, now slapping the table in his Brooklyn office for effect, “like, ‘Sean, we gotta get Jeremy.’ We gotta go get him.'”

Others were unsure. Could Lin, a scoring sixth man in Charlotte, be a full-time starting point guard?

“Yes,” Atkinson kept telling them. “Yes, I believe in it. Yes, yes, yes, yes.”

“In the back of my mind, the whole time I knew,” Atkinson said. “I knew he was the right guy.”

Apparently, some in Nets’s management weren’t sure Lin could be a full-time starting PG, since Lin played more of a scoring sixth-man role. Atkinson was adamant that Lin could be a full-time starting PG. So I think this is probably why Atkinson has been emphasizing that Lin needs to be more of a distributor. This concerns me, because I think Lin is better off being equally a scoring and passing PG with more weight given to scoring. Those who watch Lin’s games closely will notice that when Lin scores, he ends up racking up assists and gets all his teammates involved, because Lin’s game really opens up when he scores. I hope Lin will be able to convince Atkinson of this at some point in the season.

And for those Lin fans who want a lot more PnRs, I don’t think it’s going to happen, unfortunately. Like I wrote in the previous article, I’m expecting Atkinson’s system to be 70 percent or more motion offense. Apparently, Atkinson’s only concern about Lin is that Lin might expect a PnR heavy system that launched Linsanity:

If Atkinson had one concern, it was that Lin might expect the same pick-and-roll-heavy system that helped launch Linsanity. Atkinson is using a motion offense patterned after Atlanta’s.

But Lin proved a willing student once again. The ball might be in his hands less. The stats might not reach the heights of Linsanity. But he is settling in nicely.

“He understands there’s a lot of different ways to play,” Atkinson said. “I think that’s pretty cool, the maturity of understanding that.”

Because Atkinson has already made clear to Lin that his system won’t be PnR heavy, I don’t think there’s much Lin can do to change Atkinson’s system into a more PnR heavy offense, since I’m assuming Lin agreed to a motion offense when Lin signed with the Nets. So it looks like we’re going to be stuck with that. I actually do like motion offense, but I also would want more of a balance with PnRs. I think if Brook Lopez continues to struggle in the motion offense, Atkinson may think about adding more PnRs. We’ll see. But I have a feeling the constant complaint by Lin fans this season is the lack of PnRs in Atkinson’s offense.

The article ends beautifully with this sentiment:

There are no quick fixes in Brooklyn, not anymore. The Nets need a lot more talent and a lot more time. But they will start with this bond, between the rookie head coach and the headstrong point guard, each with so much yet to prove—two nobodies striving to leave a legacy.

“I can’t wait to see how this turns out,” Atkinson said. “Because I’m a believer.”

 

 

 

 

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  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Play like Jeremy Lin
    Write like Howard Beck!

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Y’all probably have read the interview Lin gave Greg Logan at Newsday.com:

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nets/nets-q-a-ten-minutes-with-jeremy-lin-1.12493119

    The part that caught my attention is the following:

    Q: Kenny Atkinson says you must move from a two-guard mentality to a point-guard mentality. Can you do that and stay aggressive?

    Lin: “It’s definitely a fine line. I’m still trying to figure it out, too. I think it’s going to take a little bit of time. What Kenny might see in me as a player is something we’re going to continually discuss because, at the end of the day, I obviously want to play the way he wants me to play. He knows, too, that I have to go off instinct. We talk a lot, so, I’m not worried about it, and we have the type of relationship where he can say anything to me and vice versa.”

    In the mean time, Steve Serby of the NewYork Post revealed the following in his interview of Atkinson:

    Q: How is he different now as a player?
    A: Better defender. More mature. Better leader. Still stubborn (laugh).

    Q: Stubborn in what way?
    A: He has strong opinions on how the game should be played and how it should be coached. I like that. I like that dialogue.

    Check out the full interview here:
    http://nypost.com/2016/10/22/kenny-atkinson-talks-nets-nyc-experience-and-lin-carmelo/

    I see there is a difference of opinions on how the game should be played between Lin and KA here. Let’s see how they work out their differences. It’s gonna be fun, folks!

    On a related note, Lin would be a great coach when his playing days are over, don’t y’all think? 🙂

    • pistolpete

      Definitely!

    • As I speculated in this article, Atkinson promised the Nets organization that Lin can be a starting caliber PG, meaning, distribute the ball. So I think that’s the big reason why Atkinson is so adamant about Lin being more of a distributor for this team. I hope Lin will be able to convince Atkinson that he needs to be more of a scoring PG. From the last couple of games, it looks like Lin is starting to do that. We’ll see.

      In the above article, I also mentioned how I’m not worried, because I know Lin and Atkinson have an open dialogue. So I think between the two of them, they’ll figure out the best course of action for the Nets. It looks like they already have started to do so in the last two games.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    I missed the whole Pacers game!
    But my Ouija board and I did predict a win, didn’t we?
    My Ouija board and I never bet against Lin.
    Onto highlights now….

  • Pistolpete

    Tremendous coaching job from Atkinson and great play from the team the entire game. Boy was I wrong to be so worried about KA after only 1 game! He was very robotic in his substitutions the first game and played Lopez very little and didn’t get him the ball very often. What a difference in this game! He varied his substitutions to suit the game, got Brook involved and played Lin 34 minutes. Lin for his part just missed a triple double! He had 21 points, 9 rebounds (7 in the 4th quarter) and 9 assists while shutting down Teague on defense. Lopez led the team with 25 points and Kilpatrick came off the bench to score 18 points (10 in the 4th quarter). A great team victory and shows promise to prove the “experts” wrong with their prediction of last place for the Nets.

    • young Ashley

      Losing six straight games from preseason to the regular season with that motion offense lacking in PNR certainly would get us fans worried and me wondering if our guy still won’t get to play to his strengths under a stubborn coach. So this game is such a great relief! What a good day for Lin and the Nets fans!

    • I didn’t have a chance to respond to your comments about Atkinson’s coaching in the Boston game. I actually thought it was a very gutsy, yet, smart move for him to leave the second unit in there. I saw it as an investment for the future. Showing that he has confidence in them will go a long towards given them confidence in the future, even though it may have meant not being able to launch a pretty improbable comeback. I would say nearly every coach would have put the starters back when the lead was cut to 12 points. But Atkinson is a very unique coach and that’s a great great thing. I tweeted all of these things after the Boston game. Also, I think Atkinson didn’t let Lin play with 11 seconds left, because he sat Lin for too long and didn’t want Lin shooting the game tying shot. I’m not saying I agree with it, but I can understand the reasoning. So far, Atkinson has been the coach that I’ve been hoping for. Atkinson basically coaches pretty much exactly the way I want him to coach. I also love his management of players’ minutes. Nearly all coaches fail at that miserably. Not Atkinson. I didn’t have a problem with his time management of Lin in the Boston game, either. Lin would have played around 32 mins in that game if Atkinson didn’t throw in the towel. And him pulling Lin out after Lin hit two threes or something was fine with me. It was time for Lin to get some rest. What Atkinson does is very atypical when it come to managing the start player’s (Lin in this case) minutes. In the 4th he’ll put in in twice (giving Lin a bit of rest somewhere halfway through 4th quarter). I’ve never seen that done so consistently and it’s something I’ve always wanted coaches to do. So in a lot of ways, Atkinson is coaching pretty much exactly the way I would want to coach. So gonna be tough for me to complain about Atkinson’s coaching I think.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    I was only able to watch bits and pieces of the Bucks game last night. Watching the Nets come back to tie the game with 11 sec left was pretty cool. Too bad they could not stop the Bucks at the buzzer. Heart breaking loss for the Nets but exhilarating win for the Bucks! That’s sports!

    Lin’s shot wasn’t falling last night. His legs weren’t there. But as usual, he gave it all on both ends of the floor. His teammates gave it all as well. This is a fun team to watch and root for.

    OK, Lin will recoup, the Nets will regroup and beat the Bulls at home on Halloween night. My (spooky) Ouija board says so! 🙂

    • I did see the Bucks game. It was a heartbreaking loss for the Nets, but if Nets won it would have been a heartbreaking loss for the Bucks. I actually wasn’t upset about the loss. The Nets were tough and Bucks played well. Lin had a horrible shooting night, but did well on all other aspects of his game. Whiteheads’s back to back turnovers late in the 4th really hurt. If I could point to anything, it would be that. But if Lin had made a couple more shots, that would have been the difference. Lin had great looks, I guess he just didn’t have his legs on a back-to-back. Hope he and the nets bounce back and defeat the Bulls. To me the Bulls look like a horribly put together team, but they’ve been winning. So that’s surprising to me. Haven’t paid attention to the teams they’ve played or watched any of their games, though. Just looked at their record. If Bulls do well this season, that would surprise me, just because they seem like a bad fit.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    OK folks! I was only able to watch the first half of the Bulls game. Not pretty. I was taken aback to later discover that Lin did not score a single point in the second half? What happened?

    Me and my Ouija board sure were spooked this time! Onto the Pistons then. No problem! Lin and the Nets will win! 🙂

  • Linfan123

    Mr. Ping Pong, Pistolpete, I understand the bond Jeremy and KA have. I appreciate KA and Brookly and the opportunity they have given our guy. I am growing frustrated with the playing time issue however. Anybody else? In two out of the first 4 game KA has basically pulled the plug and allowed Jeremy to sit out the entire 4th quarter. Anybody else concerned with playing time = missed out on opportunities for stats for Jeremy?

    • MrP1ngP0ng

      Just be patient, Linfan123. An 82-game season is a marathon. Lin will get his stats. KA is his mentor and is betting big time on Lin. Trust the bond! 🙂

    • In both those games, Lin was taken out, because the game was out of reach. So Lin’s minutes are a lot lower than they will be. I think Atkinson’s plan is to play Lin around 33 minutes. In normal games where Nets remain competitive throughout that’s what you’re going to see and I think that’s what we have been seeing. Over the course of the season, Lin will average the most minutes on the team. I’m sure of that. So absolutely no concern for me about Lin’s minutes on the Nets. Nets in general try not to use their guys too much, but I think they’ll play Lin around 32-33 minutes, which will be the most on the team. I still want Lin playing around 35 minutes, but I’m also okay with 32-33 minutes. which is what you’ll see Lin end up averaging when this season is over.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    OK folks, I was only able to watch the first half. Wow, 71 points and so much fun!

    Oh no, I’m dismayed to find out that Lin got hurt and did not play in the second half. I hope it’s only a minor strain on the hamstring. I’m no doctor, but to be safe, I’d say Lin should call in sick for a couple of weeks. There is a lot of basketball left in the season. No need to rush back. Take your time, Lin!

    I try to look at the bright side. May be with Lin sidelined, the inexperienced but energetic Whitehead will get a chance to practice with the starters, play more and improve faster. The front office now has to think hard on cutting somebody on the team in order to get another backup PG. May be my Yogi bear will get a second chance!

    Charlotte is next! Lin will be on the sideline coaching Skill and Whitehead! Tough luck for Charlotte! Nets will win again! 🙂

    • I hope Yogi gets another chance. Yogi showed me a lot more than Whitehead so far. But Yogi’s height is probably a big issue in the coach and org having belief in him.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    OK, so Lin will be out for at least two weeks. I hope Lin takes his time for his body to heal and not rush back. It’s hard for a competitive athlete like Lin to stay on the sideline when he knows his team needs him badly. As long as no surgery is needed, Lin will be fine. Just be patient!

    OK, I’m gonna root for IW now. I know our PistolPete here has not been too impressed with IW. But who else can fill Lin’s shoes now? I believe IW can learn from Lin and improve from game to game. So by the time Lin comes back, IW will be that much more ready.

    Letzzz Gooo IW! Give KW hell!

    • I missed tonight’s game vs. Hornets. I wanted Skilpatrick to start over Whitehead, but I didn’t think Atkinson would go for it, since Skilpatrick is not a PG. But so far, Booker and Skilpatrick are my two favorite Nets after Jeremy Lin. I’m curious do you or anyone who saw tonight’s game think it would have made a difference had Skilpatrick started over IW?

    • I wouldn’t worry about Lin rushing back. The Nets strike me as very conservative with their management of injuries. They definitely won’t let Lin rush back. This Nets organization is a well-oiled machine.

    • It’s too bad that the Nets have winnable games coming up. It would actually be better if they went up against the elites like Cavs and Spurs in Lin’s absence. This is gonna make their road to the playoffs a lot tougher.

    • Pistolpete

      My evaluation on Whitehead is based upon his summer league, preseason and regular season play. I have not seen him in practice but apparently both Atkinson and Lin feel he is worth developing. So that gives me optimism for Whitehead even though I’ve seen some awful turnovers and a propensity to foul. He did look better against the Hornets making some nice passes and drives although he had 5 fouls (some of them foolish) and some bad turnovers. I think a lot of his problem is that he has been more of a shooting guard in the past (I know he played point guard his last year in college) and he is trying to switch to a pass first mentality who can run the offense. Becoming and NBA point guard is similar to being an NFL quarterback in that it takes several years of experience to be good at it (Another reason Linsanity was so incredible). Whitehead is very fortunate in that injuries have sidelined 3 point guards ahead of him in Lin, Vasquez and Foye. He is a fourth string point guard getting a chance to start. It would be big for the team if he develops enough to be a legitimate backup especially since Vasquez and Foye are at the end of their careers. I hope the kid makes it because he seems like a nice person and is willing to learn but he ain’t and never will be another JLin.

      • pistolpete

        (To be fair I’m sure the hope is that he will become a decent backup certainly not the 2nd coming of JLin)

      • I share your sentiments exactly about Whitehead. I hope I’m wrong. The PG position is the most difficult position to learn. And that does make Linsanity all that more incredible. Jeremy Lin this season–especially–has been as flawless of a floor general as you can ask for. Lin’s game is just a beauty to watch–even more so now than during Linsanity, actually.

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        Of course, there ain’t gonna be another Lin. KA has to work with what he has. And Lin is helping mold the younger players. From what I’ve read and seen, these young players trust Lin and accept Lin as their leader. These young players, knowing they have the full support of the coaching staff and their teammates, will be extremely motivated and will bring energy to every game. Motivation is more than half of the learning process. I am optimistic.

        The Nets FO and team as a whole appear calm and composed against unforeseen adversities. Nobody is panicking. The media (due to preseason low expectation) seem to leave them alone. This is good.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    I was only able to watch the first 8 minutes of the Bees game last night. The ball was moving and the shots were falling for the Nets during that period. It was fun.

    From what I’ve read, IW and RHJ did step up and play relatively well. Just be patient and give the rookies (yes, RHJ is like a rookie because he did not play much last year, just like Lin in his second year) a chance to learn and improve, especially with coach Lin on the sideline.

    In case you haven’t seen it, here’s to Coach Lin!

    https://youtu.be/dqOYkErnpVs

    The media are changing their tune on Lin, I think. They are loving Lin now.

    The upcoming Puppies game is a very winnable game. Letzzz Gooo Nets!

    • This clip on Twitter has a more complete interview with Lin on Whitehead and Skilpatrick: https://twitter.com/linfinity88/status/794689346586677249

      Actually after listening to Lin’s perspective, I now feel that Atkinson made the right decision in starting Whitehead at PG. Originally, I wanted Skilpatrick to start in Lin’s absence, but I now realize it’s more important to develop Whitehead at PG than just having Skilpatrick fill in at PG, just because Skilpatrick is the better player and can also make plays. Skilpatrick should stay at SG. And from Lin’s perspective, it sounds like Whitehead hasn’t shown us who he truly is, yet. So I now feel that Whitehead is worth developing. I think Whitehead just needs to get comfortable with the speed of the NBA game and starting will definitely accelerate that learning curve.

      So Nets may not get wins, but at least they get to do something arguably more important, which is to develop Whitehead sooner rather than later.

    • Yeah, the media’s and NBA’s perspective on Jeremy Lin has shifted dramatically. It’s a great thing to see and makes my job much easier. I no longer feel the need to set the record straight on Lin, because it’s already being done.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello Lin fans, non-fans and non Lin fans, just making conversation here…

    So it’s the Nets hosting the Wolves today. I dunno much about the Wolves but from what I’ve read at CanisHoopus.com, the Wolves have a habit of playing badly in the third quarter. ‘Sounds familiar? So it will come down to the battle of the 3rd quarter. Whichever team wins the 3rd wins!

    Let’s look at matchups here.

    Lopez vs KAT: from what I’ve read, last year’s ROY has been unstoppable. Lopez without Lin, hmm, I’m not so sure. Advantage Wolves.

    Booker vs Dieng: their stats are similar though Dieng is markedly bigger than Booker. But I like Booker, so let’s call it even!

    RHJ vs Wiggins: gotta give it to the former ROY who is having a good stats sheet so far. Advantage Wolves.

    Bog vs Lavine: can Bog bounce back strong from his not-so-good last game? I think so. Let’s call it even here.

    IW vs Dunn: Dunn was a fifth overall first round pick this year. But IW totally outshined Dunn when they went head-to-head in college. I hope IW will be able to do the same tonight. Slight advantage to IW!

    Intangible: Home court advantage goes to the Nets.

    So it’s a toss-up, meaning a winnable for the Nets. Lin will assist with the coaching on the sideline. Nets will win!

    Letzzz Gooo Nets!

    Have a good evening/morning everyone, wherever you are on the WEB!

    🙂

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Ok, I missed the last quarter! The first three quarters were fun, and I’m sure the fourth was even more fun! 🙂

    IW outdid Dunn again!

    Onto the Knicks! Letzzz Gooo!

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello folks! So the Nets lost last night to the Knicks. I think this back-to-back thing did take a toll on this short-handed team. They just ran out of gas.

    The Gods of Basketball are not favoring the Nets right now with injuries on their guards: first Foye, then Lin, then IW. My boy Yogi Bear got to play as a result. Coach KA is doing the best he can. I am optimistic about Yogi, just as I am optimistic about IW, because they will have Lin coaching them.

    The next four road games will be tough. The Nets may have a chance against the Suns, but the rest of the games… I wonder if Lin will travel with the team. If I am his doctor, I would recommend him stay home to avoid unnecessary stress on his injured hamstring and heal faster. But I think Lin will travel because he will want to be there with his team.

    Onto the Suns! Letzzz Gooo!

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    I was able to watch the first quarter and the fourth quarter of the Suns game. Fun stuffs! Great ball movement, everybody stepping up, and the shots were falling. Small sample size, but KA has done a tremendous job working with a bunch of no-name players (except Lopez and Lin, of course), getting them play his brand of basketball each game a little bit better than the next. I am optimistic!

    NBA pundits and fans alike are writing off the upcoming game against the Clips as a sure loss. I hope coach KA and his team don’t think that way. You do not go into battle thinking you already lose. The key to me is the long ball: the Nets shot 39.2% in 3pt% in their 4 wins and only 28.7% in their 5 losses. Small sample size, I know, but that’s all we’ve got!

    Everyone of the Nets players is given the green light to shoot the long ball if he is open. And all of them do, and when the long balls are falling, DJordan’s rim protection is neutralize. The Nets have players that can really drop treys. It’s a matter of mental toughness and confidence. The Nets can beat the Clips. Letzzz Gooo!

    Have a great day/evening everyone, wherever you are on this WEB.

    • I haven’t been watching Nets games lately. Hard for me to think about anything else but what has happened with the election.

      I’ve seen on Twitter a lot of optimism for the Nets with their win of the the Suns. And I think it’s great. But Id be shocked if the Nets don’t have at least a 3-game losing streak coming up. That would be so incredibly impressive if this hobbled Nets team could win even one of the three upcoming games.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    In case you haven’t seen it already, check this out:
    https://youtu.be/taBUOHbTTVw

    And this too:

    https://youtu.be/Uc_etm4q-S4

    • I did see this video. Thanks for the link. I wish Lin was playing, but it’s awesome seeing him coaching and also great that Atkinson appears to be totally okay with that. Also great that Lin is taking advantage of his injury to study his teammates and the game even more. Of course, I would expect no less from Lin.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello avid jeremylintel.com blog readers! Just making conversation here…

    It was tough to watch the Nets get blown away by the Clips. It was a little bit less painful to watch them lose to the Lakers the following night. One positive thing I saw in both losses is the Nets never gave up. They fought tooth and nail. I see steady improvement in my man Yogi Bear. And Whitehead, what a tough kid! These two rookies will play vital roles in the rotation for sure. And coach KA, I really like the way he handled both pre-game and post-game interviews: always positive, always looking forward, always finding something good to say about his players and encouraging them…

    The Nets have so many holes to fill. Lopez cannot carry the team by himself. The Nets need Lin. Lin is to be reevaluated today. Nets fans eagerly await…

    Switching topic somewhat. I don’t remember how many times I read and re-read Howard Beck’s article. It’s such a moving and uplifting story: “Brought together by basketball, reunited by friendship, Lin and Atkinson now face their greatest challenge: making the Nets respectable.” Yes, I concur. This is the greatest challenge in Lin’s and Atkinson’s career! Marks’ career as well. And they will deliver. I’m a believer.

    As an aside, does anyone here pay attention to the label on the bottom of the “little slip of paper” Lin gave to KA? What is Item 9600? 😉

    Have a great morning/afternoon/evening/night wherever you are on this WEB!

    • Dr. Gary Teng

      LS9600 – Graham-field Inc Printed Pill Envelope
      It is just an item (series) number for pill envelop manufactured by the Graham-Field Health Products.

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        Thanks DGT, my avid jeremylintel.com blog reader comrade! 🙂

        I myself take herbal supplement pills from Taiwan. They work better than regular vitamin supplements for old Asian men like myself! May be it’s all psychological. 🙂

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello Lin fans, Lin non-fans and non Lin fans, just making conversation here…

    Due to travel and work, I was not able to watch the OKC game and Blazers game. From what I’ve read, the Nets defense was just. And the offense sputtered. Losing is not fun and will take its toll on the team’s morale. Can coach KA and “assistant coach” Lin keep the team from falling apart? Boy, Lin cannot come back soon enough.

    So Lin’s injury is more serious than the fans would like to believe. I’m cool with taking time for the body to heal. There are a lot of games left in the season. It’s a marathon and not a sprint.

    OK, the Celts are next. Letzzz Gooo Nets!

    • Pistolpete

      Hi Mr.P1ngP0ng! Always uplifting to read your posts. I heard Lin went pretty hard for 45 minutes on Monday. So I think his return won’t be much longer! It would be great if he played against Boston but they probably will hold him out until the home game Sunday against the Kings. I agree caution is best even though it’s killing me to see him play again and lift the Nets to victory!

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        ‘Good to hear you chime in too, Pistol! Yeah, I did read about Lin training hard on Monday too. Let’s hope that he is not pushing his body beyond what it is capable of as his hammy is recovering. I am patient, but I dunno how patient Lin is with himself. I am sure the competitor in him is dying to go out there and play. And fans like ourselves are itching to see Lin back on the court, running the show, and winning. The Nets organization itself seems to be quite patient about preparing and preserving their players for the long term. And I really like that.

        Yep, I also think the home game against the Kings will be a good one for Lin to come back. The season is still long and not lost, as long as Lin and the rest of the team can stay relatively healthy. In the meantime, let’s root for the Nets to steal the Celts game tomorrow. 🙂

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Happy Thanksgiving to ALL!

    I was only able to watch the first half of the Celts game last night. The first quarter was so sloppy and bad. The second quarter was much much better and showed some glimmer of hope. From what I’ve read and the boxscore, the Nets just could not keep up with the Celts in the second half. Nothing new here. The Nets just do not have enough talents to compete against the good teams. The rookies could only do so much, and the vets like Scola and Foye contributed nothing.

    The current starting lineup is the best coach KA can do, I think. We need Lin back badly. It’s depressing for Nets fans to watch the team lose five in a row like this. It’s frustrating for Lin fans to see Lin sidelined due to injury and not knowing when he can come back. Nothing we Lin fans can do but wait…

    Again, Happy Thanksgiving to ALL!

    • Dr. Gary Teng

      Without Lin, The BrookLin Nets becomes the Broken Nets.

      My house are full of broken champagne bottles and unused blue pills.

      Most of the Nets’ players are up-to-no-good rookies and also-runs. Whitehead is nothing but a black head. Kilpatrick becomes the reincarnation of Black Mamba, Yogi Ferrell is no Yogi Berra… The list goes on and on and on.

      In short, I am dispirited, dejected, and depressed by watching those dead fish swimming lifelessly in the Broken Nets.

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        Give the rookies a chance, DGT! Lin is mentoring them. Skil himself calls Lin his brother! They are not that talented but they look up to Lin and are giving it all. Nobody wanted to come to the Nets, except Lin. And that was because of KA.

        Lin has taken on the most challenging task in his career by choice. It is unfortunate that he got injured.
        But injury is a part of a professional athlete’s life. Lin will ride it out and will lead the Nets to surprise everybody in the league. Yes, I am a Lin believer.

        • Dr. Gary Teng

          Dear Professor MrP1ngP0ng,

          Oh lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood — Animals

          I, just like you, am a true Lin believer. But please carefully look at the following stats:

          In the past five-in-a-row losing games

          Kilpatrick is 20/59, shooting percentage 33.9
          Whitehead is 8/28, shooting percentage 28.6
          Ferrell is 9/27, shooting percentage 33.3
          Foye is 6/22,shooting percentage 27.3

          Not one of the four Nets bench PGs is above 40%.

          I know that they are not-so-talented and/or inexperienced. That is NOT what I am lamenting for. I am disappointed with their playing mentality and basketball IQ. When time is getting tough, they start playing ISO balls and hero balls. This is definitely not the formula for winning, especially given their lack of athletic abilities.

          It takes one to do Vigina Monologue.
          It takes two to tango.
          It takes five to play team ball.

          Have a great long weekend!~~~

          • MrP1ngP0ng

            ‘good to hear from you on Black Friday, DGT the Animals. I hear you, my friend. I will miss the Pacers game tonight due to travel. Anyway, keep rooting for the Nets, no matter what.

            Speaking of laments, here’s something for you and suffering Lin/Nets fans…

            https://youtu.be/5Nfb9c4RV_w

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Did not get to watch the Pacers game tonight. Looking at the boxscore: 19 TOs, shooting less than 34% in 3 ptrs is not gonna cut it, and only 60.9% in FT! Man, the Nets are bad. It looks like they are not gonna win another game until Lin comes back. And when Lin plays again, it will take a few games for him to get into the flow of things. The Gods of Basketball are cruel to Lin and the Nets and their fans.

    Onto the Kings! Letzzz Gooo Nets!

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello Lin fans/non-fans and non Lin fans! Just making conversation here…

    So Lin is still out for the Kings game tonight. As some of you might have seen on Lin’s Facebook page, he is still nursing/rehabbing his hamstring with some fancy/high tech equipment. As long it is not a tear that requires surgery, then he’ll be alright. It takes time and it sucks but it will heal.

    I don’t follow the Kings, but from what I’ve read, they are just so-so. Except for DMC, there is no real star on the team. The Kings, based on their record so far, are ranked 27th on defense. So the Nets, ranked 28th on defense, will have a chance for a win tonight at home. The open treys must fall though: must be over 34%, anything near 40% would do it. And the FTs: must be around 80%. And please keep the TOs to a minimum. Is that too much to ask?

    I hope to be able to watch the Kings game tonight and be entertained. Letzzz Gooo Nets!

    Have a great day/evening everyone, wherever you are on the WEB. 🙂

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello everyone! ‘Trying to keep the conversation going here…

    I watched the game last night. The first half was entertaining, but the second half… Sigh! The Nets had no answer for DMC. The TO’s in the second half killed us. The two technicals, one by KA and the other by Foye, killed all momentum in the fourth when we came back from 18 down to within 6. The fight was there but the team (coach and players) lost their composure when things got really tight.

    The Clips come to town next. Lin is nowhere near full recovery to be back on the court. The hammy injury must have been more serious than we fans would like to believe. I hope it’s not a tear. May the Gods of Basketball have mercy on us!

    On a separate note, I watched the first quarter of the Nets D-league game yesterday, out of curiosity. Bennett and CMC did well. I guess they are just D-league stars and no more than that (for now).

    Have a great day/evening everyone, wherever you are on this WEB!

    • pistolpete

      Hi MrP! Yeah I think the Nets have been outplayed in every 3rd quarter this year. Probably the other teams are making better halftime adjustments than we are. We do seem quite predictable in play and substitutions. I think Atkinson will be an excellent coach but there is a learning curve for any job.
      Anyhow it’s killing me that Lin is not back but I have to agree to err on the side of caution. If they play well when he returns his value to the team will be recognized and the wait will be worth it!

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        It’s killing me not to see Lin play too, Pistol. It’s hard to motivate myself to watch the Nets games these days.

        KA is a rookie coach who counted on Lin to run the show. Without Lin, KA is left with a bunch of rookies doing the quarterbacking. One cannot make quick adjustments with inexperienced and not so talented players. I’m not sure if Pop can win with a team like the Nets in its present state. Nobody can, I don’t think.

        Let’s hope Lin comes back in December fully recovered. November is lost. Let’s move forward!

        • pistolpete

          That’s a good point about making quick adjustments without the personnel. Didn’t occur to me but it makes sense. However KA, like any rookie coach, will have to go thru a learning process.

          I feel that when Lin comes back they will do well. PLEASE let it be SOON. 😀

          • MrP1ngP0ng

            And to borrow from the Sixers, “trust the (learning) process!” 😉

          • pistolpete

            With their track record I wouldn’t borrow salt from them. 😊

            By the way what happened to JLintel? Miss him on the Net. 😢

          • MrP1ngP0ng

            Poor Sixers! They were counting on their #1 pick to save them, but the young man got hurt! Injuries can happen to any player. We just don’t know. Mike Conley of the Grizz suffered a fractured vertebrae and is out indefinitely. Very sad.

            As to JLintel (I call him ‘Philosopher’), I think he is too upset with Trump winning the election to partake in any of our BB discussions. I’d stay away from politics and religion on this blog. It’s his blog, so he can say anything he wants.

            On a separate note, how do you insert these emoticons here?

          • pistolpete

            My iPhone just has them on the bottom left of the keyboard

          • MrP1ngP0ng

            Ok, let me try to copy/paste your emoticon here: 😊

            It works! 😊 😊

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Anybody watching the Clips game?

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
    Nets won!

    • pistolpete

      What a terrific game. Great morale booster they really needed it. Now get Lin back and go on a winning streak!!

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        Morale booster indeed!
        Who would have thunk?

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Ha ha, I guess “super” teams will think twice before resting their “super” stars when playing the Nets from now on.

    The Bucs beat the Cavs tonight too. Nets will meet Bucs at home next. The Nets will win this one! That’s my not-so-bold prediction. But wait, didn’t Bog rolled his ankle in tonight’s game? Sigh, just one injured player after another. May the Gods of Basketball have mercy on the Nets.

  • pistolpete

    I’m starting to get a bad feeling about the Net’s organization. I’m probably wrong and I hope I am but what’s going on is very odd. First of all they just keep people out when they’re injured without giving any details of the injury and no ballpark when they will return. They’ve never given any details on the extent of Lin’s injury. Was it type 1,2,3 etc? If it was type 1 he really should be playing now but if we don’t know they can keep him out indefinitely. Why would they do this? Why would they “rest” Lopez the 3rd game of the season? Why doesn’t any starter average more than 27 minutes a game? It’s very odd and I have a theory but I’d like to hear what other people think.

    • Hey pistolpete,

      Sorry I haven’t been on here in a while. I’m still recovering from the election and also haven’t been watching Nets games very closely, because Lin has been out.

      I think the Nets just like to keep things like injuries private. I don’t really see anything nefarious about that. I think they’re also very conservative about managing their players. And I think that’s a big reason why Lin has been inactive for probably longer than many fans have expected. I think they really want to make sure that once Lin comes back, he won’t have a relapse of that same injury, which I think means they value their players–especially a key player like Lin. I think they are looking long-term and would rather sacrifice the wins now for a long term relationship with Lin. So I see all of these as good things.

      Because of Lopez’s foot injury that seems to plague him, the Nets think that the correct course of action to make sure Lopez is healthy for the entire season is to limit his minutes and give him days off. So, again, they Nets are thinking long-term. They’re planning for the entire season, rather than just trying to get wins and risk overworking their players. That’s why they ended up resting Lopez on the 3rd game of the season. Nets are just really conservative in managing their players to limit injuries.

      So far, I’ve been very happy with the Nets organization and Atkinson overall. Unlike a lot of fans, I’m actually not concerned with what’s going on. They’ve been right there with a lot of games, even though they’ve been playing severely short-handed. Good things will come once Lin returns and they’re firing on all cylinders. The way I cope with things is to just take these games without Lin in stride. So far, they’ve gone actually better than I’ve expected. I know things look grim now, but that’s to be expected, so that’s why I’m not too bothered by what’s going on with the Nets. I know things will pick up soon enough. It’s just a matter of time.

      • pistolpete

        Yes the more I think about it I agree there is nothing underhanded going on. They have no draft choice so tanking doesn’t make any sense. I think I’m just frustrated that they’ve been so secretive and unforthcoming about his injury. If they had just said from the start it’s a type 2 strain and requires 4-6 weeks rehab all the guessing, anticipation and conspiracy theories wouldn’t have happened. They didn’t have to give any actual return date just a ballpark and the extent of injury. Other NBA teams do this why not the Nets?

        By the way I couldn’t get onto the website for the past 4 or 5 days. Not sure what the problem was (thought I might be banned for implying conspiracy theories 😊)

        • I have noticed that the Nets don’t operate like a lot of NBA teams. They’re extremely secretive. I don’t pay close attention enough to the Spurs to know if this is simply the “Spurs way”. I think they’re very big into tailoring everything to individual players, so that’s probably why they don’t like to give even ball park figures for recoveries, since they think every player recovers differently. By not giving a ball park figure for recovery, they can take their time and bring players back when they are certain it’s the right time. I think they’re concerned that if they give a ball park figure and the player doesn’t return on that timeline, simply because they want to be conservative and keep the player out longer than they really need to, fans and the media will think something is wrong. I think they’ve anticipated that they will be more conservative with injuries and tailor recovery to individual players, so that’s probably why they shy away from giving standard recovery timelines. That’s just my guess.

          Ha ha. Yes, thanks for letting me know about issues with the website. MrPingPong also has informed me of that. I only realized just a few days ago that my site was down and called my hosting company to get it back up, again. What happened was I canceled the renewal of one of my other domains and they ended up canceling this domain, as well. Hopefully, there won’t be any more issues, although, the issue hasn’t quite been resolved with my hosting company. The next time it goes down again it’s likely the result of my hosting company doing something I didn’t want them to do.

    • MrP1ngP0ng

      Hey Pistol, I see you’ve been rather active posting at Realgm, venting your frustration! Keep up the good work amigo! 😉

      • pistolpete

        Yeah. Do you post there also? They are very pro Lin which is great but the “old Net fans” are over sensitive to “new fans” so you have to careful what you say (I’ve already been suspended once but I think I’m starting to be more accepted). 😊
        Some of the old timers drive me crazy with their talk of “winning is our 3rd or 4th priority”, “development over winning”, “trust the process”, etc.,etc. Makes me want to gag. I know Lin doesn’t agree with them at all from his words and I’m sure the other players feel the same way.

        • MrP1ngP0ng

          No, I don’t post at Realgm. I only post here and at Brook-Lin.com, just to give them some clicks. I read Realgm/Nets to entertain myself.

          Being a (former) Knicks fan, did you post at Realgm during Linsanity? Here is the link to Lin’s breakout game thread on Feb 04, 2012. You must read the 1465 posts from beginning to end to relive that Linsanity breakout game!

          http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1158215#start_here

          😊

          • pistolpete

            Thanks for the link! No I never got on any forums until he went to Houston. Clutchfans was a terrible introduction to online forums. I’m surprised I continued with it.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Hello faithful JeremyLintel.com blog readers, so we are back in business!

    I have not been able to watch the last three Nets games due to work and travel. ‘Very happy that the Nets beat the Nuggs last night. From my point of view, the Nets have been making incremental progress in each and every game. And for that reason, I am optimistic. When Lin comes back, they will be that much more fun to watch.

    Speaking of Lin, I am a little bit concerned about the gravity of his injury. I personally think, being extremely competitive as he is, he pushed himself beyond what his body was capable of during rehab, and, as a result, re-injured his hammy. That’s just a guess from my own martial art injury experience. Anyway, Lin will recover. But not in time for the upcoming Spurs game though. This is a let down for me because a friend of mine (who is a Spurs fan) has gotten court side tickets for us to watch the game anticipating that Lin would be back by this time. I’ll drive four hours to San Antonio to watch a Lin-less Nets game anyway.

    Letzzz Gooo Nets!

    • I think 4-6 weeks is standard for Lin’s injury and Nets seem to be extremely conservative in the management of their players so I think that’s what’s going on. But you never know, since Nets are so secretive.

      That’s awesome that you got court side tix to see the Spurs. But too bad Lin won’t be playing. Hopefully the Lin-less Nets will make it competitive.

  • Nets just waved Yogi Ferrell and signed Spencer Dinwiddie. Widdie is a 6’6″ PG/combo guard. Marks/Atkinson definitely has a “type”. they like combo guards with length. I haven’t heard of Dinwiddie, but from this highlight, he looks like he has good upside and is an upgrade from Ferrell and even Whitehead. He looks like a smart player, who can drive and dish, but I guess anyone can look good in highlights. I think it’s a great pickup by the Nets, because he’s still a very young player who can develop under Atkinson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsJqCu7T0YI&feature=youtu.be

    • MrP1ngP0ng

      Spencer D sure does look good in the highlights. My man Yogi did not make a big enough impression. And hurting his ankle did not help his cause any. Good luck Yogi!

      • Yeah, good luck to Yogi! I think Yogi also didn’t fit Marks/Atkinson’s preference for guards with length, so he probably never had a chance, anyhow.

  • pistolpete

    Lin practiced today!!! Will not play tomorrow but he’s on his way back!

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Ok folks, I’ll be sitting behind the Spurs bench tonight. You will probably see me on TV because there will always be a TV camera pointing at the Spurs bench. I am sitting in the Spurs guest section and so I cannot openly root for the Nets! Sad story!

    Coach Pop was upset at his team for lack of effort in their loss to Chicago this past Thursday. The Spurs will be more than ready to dump their wrath on the Nets. Lin is not playing, so may the Gods of Basketball have mercy on us!

    • I watched Spurs highlights, looking for you behind the Spurs bench, but I don’t think I was able to spot you. I’m guessing you din’t wear any Lin/Nets swag.

      • MrP1ngP0ng

        It turned out I had a better seat than that. I was sitting front row a few chairs on the left of the Spurs bench. Check out this highlight at the 0:25s mark:
        https://youtu.be/hSBryRaNs3U
        Right above the E of the HEB ad sign was me! 🙂

        Ok, here’s another short clip with AB scoring a trey and then air-balling the next.

        https://youtu.be/c6E7gNm80jM

        • I think I see you know. Are you the second seat in from the aisle?

          • MrP1ngP0ng

            Even better than that! I was sitting on the row as the Spurs bench and the media., five chairs away to the left of Coach Pop, right above the E of the HEB ad! One could not get a better view the game than that. 🙂

          • WOW! Now wonder I couldn’t find you before, you’re the one filming. I see you now. Those are the best seats! That must have been a great experience.

  • MrP1ngP0ng

    Not much to say about the Lin-less Spurs game… The Nets fought hard every step of the way, but the talents weren’t there to compete against the mighty Spurs.

    AB, sigh… I was intrigued about him during the summer, but no more. I have come to the conclusion that he is a D-leaguer at best.

    Spencer D, I like his game. CLV is still very raw.

    I caught Lin shooting threes before the team shootaround. He looked and moved silky smooth out there. He will be back before long, I am sure. Here is a short clip of him:

    https://youtu.be/c24bjAUnKnQ

    And here is the tipoff (more to come later on Youtube):

    https://youtu.be/gAovEpQo91g

    • Good to hear Lin is looking smooth. I’m also confident he’ll return very soon. My bet is within the next two games.